Time tracking is now mandatory in german companies. Trust based systems are now officially illegal. Which is good because most of the time they led to exploitation of workers.

@bitboxer Will be super interesting to see what implications that will have.

There were times where I would've totally disagreed with mandatory time tracking as a concept.

I was young and naive once.

Not sure how agencies and consultancies will deal with the fallout. As far as I understand it german worker's laws are quite strict and the only way companies were able to ignore them was by not tracking anything at all. That needs to change now.

I tend to agree: That's probably a good thing.

@halfbyte @bitboxer In Spain, we got mandatory clock in/out 3 years ago. I work at a consultancy, so I separately track work time and billable hours. That fulfills both compliance as well as invoicing and, although annoying, is less tedious than mapping every minute against a project code.

@halfbyte @bitboxer And sure, it totally changes the incentives around overtime. Now it's essentially debt in the books and a compliance risk (there are audits).

@kaeff @bitboxer Is that respected in practice or are you more or less expected to game the system? (That's how I would envision it to turn out in some agencies/consultancies I know)

@halfbyte @bitboxer Ahh I understand. No, our HR is chasing everyone to complete their records honestly and make up for overtime. Can't say how it is in other companies.

@kaeff @halfbyte when i was the head of bitcrowd I made sure nobody did overtime. We were billed on daily rates. If someone stayed longer we actually lost money because that overtime was not billed anywhere.

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