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#GlobalSwitchDay suggested that #Friendica was a viable alternative to #Facebook. particularly for #groups I am just not seeing a significant number of users on Friendica. What are the other alternatives? Is #Matrix https://matrix.org/ a better option for groups? #FB
matrix.orgMatrix.orgMatrix, the open protocol for secure decentralised communications
@edintone #Friendica is nice, but a little quirky and not the quickest to get used to.
What do you mean by groups?
There are boosting groups: FediGroups
about.fedigroups.socialFediGroups : Home
@edintone Ah, I see. FediGroups does allow you to approve followers and only boost to them but not quite what you are looking for.
@Graham Ward This has a variety of reasons.
One, Friendica hasn't been big or well-known to begin with. Honestly, did you even know it exists prior to mid-January?
Two, if you go by registered accounts rather than active accounts, Friendica is small because it is an old Friendica tradition to purge accounts that haven't been in use for a while. So while you may have millions of Mastodon accounts from late 2022 that are now unused, there are barely any unused Friendica accounts.
Three, not as many people leave Facebook as Instagram. Instagram is social media, it's all about having followers and posting media. It doesn't matter much who follows you. Facebook is a social network. It's all about being in contact with those whom you already know anyway. If they aren't in the Fediverse/on Friendica, their real-life friends don't move to Friendica either.
Four, a significant number of Facebook refugees is railroaded over to Mastodon, often without even being told that the Fediverse is more than Mastodon. The railroading is done either by those who still think the Fediverse is only Mastodon themselves or by fundamentalist Mastodon fans who want everyone to be on Mastodon.
Five, of those who are both on Mastodon and Facebook, many who try Friendica expect either an all-out Facebook clone, just like they expected Mastodon to be an all-out Twitter clone, or they expect Mastodon with more characters and groups. But they find Friendica to be neither and instead something new and "quirky" to get used to yet again. Once they learn that you can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon, they stop their Friendica experiment again.
Six and finally, there's no app for Friendica in the Apple App Store. Simple as that. Friendica on the iPhone means either a Mastodon app and a very very limited subset of Friendica's features or the Web interface. But many iPhone users won't touch a Web browser with a 10-foot barge pole.
The alternatives don't matter much. They are mainly Friendica's own descendants, Hubzilla (a hyper-massive feature monster with the Eiger North Face of learning curves and not even a functional Android app, not to mention that only few people have even heard of it) and (streams) (easier to get into than Hubzilla, but still even harder than Friendica, extremely obscure to the point of being practically unknown outside of itself and Hubzilla, with only two open-registration instances that are impossible to find and with no support for native mobile apps whatsoever). Neither of them really cuts into the numbers of people who move from Facebook to Friendica.
And Matrix is not an alternative to Facebook. It's an alternative to WhatsApp, Telegram and Discord. It's instant messaging.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Matrix
One, Friendica hasn't been big or well-known to begin with. Honestly, did you even know it exists prior to mid-January?
Two, if you go by registered accounts rather than active accounts, Friendica is small because it is an old Friendica tradition to purge accounts that haven't been in use for a while. So while you may have millions of Mastodon accounts from late 2022 that are now unused, there are barely any unused Friendica accounts.
Three, not as many people leave Facebook as Instagram. Instagram is social media, it's all about having followers and posting media. It doesn't matter much who follows you. Facebook is a social network. It's all about being in contact with those whom you already know anyway. If they aren't in the Fediverse/on Friendica, their real-life friends don't move to Friendica either.
Four, a significant number of Facebook refugees is railroaded over to Mastodon, often without even being told that the Fediverse is more than Mastodon. The railroading is done either by those who still think the Fediverse is only Mastodon themselves or by fundamentalist Mastodon fans who want everyone to be on Mastodon.
Five, of those who are both on Mastodon and Facebook, many who try Friendica expect either an all-out Facebook clone, just like they expected Mastodon to be an all-out Twitter clone, or they expect Mastodon with more characters and groups. But they find Friendica to be neither and instead something new and "quirky" to get used to yet again. Once they learn that you can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon, they stop their Friendica experiment again.
Six and finally, there's no app for Friendica in the Apple App Store. Simple as that. Friendica on the iPhone means either a Mastodon app and a very very limited subset of Friendica's features or the Web interface. But many iPhone users won't touch a Web browser with a 10-foot barge pole.
The alternatives don't matter much. They are mainly Friendica's own descendants, Hubzilla (a hyper-massive feature monster with the Eiger North Face of learning curves and not even a functional Android app, not to mention that only few people have even heard of it) and (streams) (easier to get into than Hubzilla, but still even harder than Friendica, extremely obscure to the point of being practically unknown outside of itself and Hubzilla, with only two open-registration instances that are impossible to find and with no support for native mobile apps whatsoever). Neither of them really cuts into the numbers of people who move from Facebook to Friendica.
And Matrix is not an alternative to Facebook. It's an alternative to WhatsApp, Telegram and Discord. It's instant messaging.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Matrix
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@jupiter_rowland @edintone I moved from Friendica to Facebook when they shut down their Basic Mobile site, as their main one is terrible with screen readers. I liked the long character limit, local posting, extensive profiles, editing and deleting of posts, and the fact that I could add people from all around the Fediverse. That said, I had to do all of the research on my own, from what the Fediverse is, to learning about instances, etc. I heard of Mastodon, but I barely knew anything about it. Once I learned that it had a 500 character limit like Twitter, I decided not to join it. Only later did I learn that some instances allow more characters. I do everything on my computer, and found that TweeseCake is an excellent client. But there are a few things that I can't do with it (including read all posts in a conversation. This is when I found several parts of the Friendica site that were either inaccessible or extremely cumbersome to use with a screen reader. Now, I am seeking something else to try. I will stay here, as the developers are working on the problems, but I want to see what else is out there. I am considering Akkoma. Overall, though, Friendica is an excellet platform. If it weren't for these issues, I wouldn't even consider moving.