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Boost this toot if you're planning on sticking around Mastodon & the Fediverse whether or not it's more popular than Bluesky.
@JesseSkinner Bridging to bluesky should be enough. I still enjoy a non-algorithm view more than chasing a computer algorithm to boost things for me!
I just wish the bridge operated by opt out rather than opt in. So many Bluesky non-techies don’t understand how it works or why they should do it.
@Bam @gimulnautti @JesseSkinner
“Because most people don’t understand it” is a terrible reason to make it opt-out.
@Bam No need to justify opt-outs.
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@Bam
> I just wish the bridge operated by opt out rather than opt in
AFAIK it was. Then the Mastodon Homeowners Association dogpiled @snarfed.org until he made it opt-in. What I'd like to see him do is make the opt-in itself opt-in. So it's up to server admins to decide whether they want BS interop with their server to be opt-in or opt-out.
I suspect our server's community would prefer opt-out.
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Having said that, there's some benefits to people effectively having to choose either;
* actually decentralised social networks like the fediverse (or Nostr)
OR
* pseudo-decentralised social platforms like BS (or Meta's Chains)
It spares us having to deal with "influencer" types who think volume of noise is more important than quality of signal.
@strypey just to throw a different light on influencers as someone who works in social media - the reason quantity over quality is important on other platforms is because of the algorithms on them. A lot of them would prefer to post less but they can't because it's their livelihood and posting less would see them punished.
Sure there's some who don't care and want to post nonsense, but there are great influencers who are pushed to in order to be successful.
Thank you for that bit of clarity.
@alexisbushnell
> the reason quantity over quality is important on other platforms is because of the algorithms on them
That explains how the habit develops. But not why people pick replacements that supply the habit, rather than liberating them from it.
While I'm glad you shared this, your reply is somewhat out of context. I was referring more to some people choosing a Xitter replacement on the basis of total population to be reached (quantity), over the values encoded in the tech (quality).
@strypey I have the same frustration but when your business model depends on reaching the most people, the decision is made for you based on where the most people are.
I also know some people have tried Fedi and had bad experiences here because they didn't understand the cultural norms here and instead of gently explaining, people just yelled and called them awful, so they left for less aggressive pastures.
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@alexisbushnell
> when your business model depends on reaching the most people, the decision is made for you based on where the most people are
That logic makes sense in a broadcast world, where channels have fairly consistent audiences. But it totally breaks down in social media.
FarceBook still has a higher total population than anywhere. But there's no guarantee anyone will see your stuff there - even if they follow you - unless you pay to play.
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Speaking here as an activist, writer and advocacy journalist for about 3 decades. If you think I don't want lots of people to read and share my stuff, you're imagining someone much more enlightened than me ; )
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I first got active on the fediverse on Quitter.se. They ran a GNU social server, which could automatically crosspost to a Titter account. I set one up for that purpose.
Every now and then I'd login to respond to any comments that merited a reply, and compare the level of engagement with what I was getting in the verse. Despite the total population of Titter being massively higher, both the quantity and quality of engagement here was consistently higher.
@strypey I am totally with you on Fedi being a better option and we are totally on the same page. But also I do understand why people have just gone with the crowd - there are so many people yelling about how amazing Bsky is and very few about Fedi.
Plus brands and advertisers don't give a shit about Fedi (and rightly so, they won't go down well here) so an amazing Fedi following won't get you paid.
@alexisbushnell
> an amazing Fedi following won't get you paid
I beg to differ. I recently got my first paid subscription from a shameless self-promotion here. I regularly see people posting jobs wanted and jobs offered ads. As well as begposts along the lines of 'can't pay my rent this week, please drop cash money in this digital bucket'.
Will an amazing BlueSky following get you paid in similar ways? Probably. But it has nothing to do with the relative size of their total population.
@strypey I meant in the way influencers make money - by selling ad space on their content.
@alexisbushnell
> I meant in the way influencers make money - by selling ad space on their content
Is it mean to say that I simply don't care what happens to people who make money that way? Just like I don't care about what happens to any bacteria on my hands when I wash them?
Like the bacteria, this style of "influencer" floods the zone with shit simply by existing. If BlueSky keeps them away from the fediverse for a bit longer, that's the best argument I've seen so far for BS existing ; )
@gimulnautti
And eventually they will introduce advertising and everyone there will scream "the sky is falling in!"
@JesseSkinner