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@pjakobs Seeing is believing: https://calckey.social/notes/9ehzd13dzh

@atomicpoet ok, I guess, this might be a client thing, but I don't see anything special here (in tusky)

@atomicpoet ah, just saw your opening post on this - so I guess the Web frontend renders the search box right into the post?
Interesting idea.
Not sure what I would use it for, though. Also it seems it's a client side implementation

@atomicpoet ah, I'm slowly getting to understand.

@pjakobs @atomicpoet
I feel like it's a problem if one has to work that hard to understand a feature.

@FeralRobots
it has to be said that I came at this with a misconception that it was about mastodon, so that made it harder.
But: personally, I still fail to see a use case. That may by my problem, though.
@atomicpoet

@pjakobs @atomicpoet
Here's how I'd refine the use-case: Show the user a search, where you want them to modify it in some way to match their particular need.

Feels like a pretty narrow use-case, though. If one just wants to search for that term, provide GET query link (ideally, in the form of descriptive linked text, since the text would function as a label).

E.g. <a href="https://search.annoyingorange.xyz/search?q=Calckey">Search AnnoyingOrange.xyz for 'Calckey'</a>

@FeralRobots @atomicpoet

honestly, the only way that I could see this used is in a passive-aggressive "let me google that for you" way - and for that we've had lmgtfy.com for decades.

@pjakobs @FeralRobots @atomicpoet that was the first use case that came to mind for me. But, this feels like something that once it is put into users hands they will develop new ways of interacting with it.

@pjakobs @FeralRobots @atomicpoet For example, I once saw someone use the edit feature on Mastodon as basically a live update blog with notifications. Every time they edited the original post on a breaking news event, everyone who interacted with the post got a notification. Further, someone could just click the view, edit link and see, the full history of how the event unfolded. I thought it was a pretty cool way of informing people about a breaking news event.

@Archnemysis @pjakobs @atomicpoet
'The street finds its own uses' is a reliable mantra, but putting something out there that one knows is bad & saying 'users will figure out how to make it good' doesn't feel like a good strategy to me. & meanwhile all the people for whom it's broken will still not be able to use it, no matter what conventions develop around its use.

@Archnemysis @pjakobs @atomicpoet
Using your example: Yes, that's clever. But how does anyone know to do that?

What about the edit feature tells them 'look at me to see earlier posts about this'?

What about the UI for the post tells them 'you can look at the history of this post'? Especially given Gargron's infamous preference for really poor low-vision usability & aesthetic resistance to basic accessibility/usability features like underlining links?

@pjakobs @Archnemysis @atomicpoet
I hear you, but I can tell you as someone who has to do accessibility evaluations on my own product & the product of others, it's not a good pattern for #a11y.

@FeralRobots
that I agree with. @Archnemysis @atomicpoet

@atomicpoet got it.