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@aaribaud @kotaro @emilymbender
Yes, in this context "the machine assembled" could be seen as either third or first person.

@jeffjarvis @aaribaud @kotaro no, that's third person, unambiguously.

@emilymbender @jeffjarvis @kotaro I *think* I get where the confusion may arise: the "first person" here is semantic, not grammatical, as in "my old self isn't able to run that fast"; grammatically third person, semantically first.

@aaribaud @jeffjarvis @kotaro

Professor of linguistics here (with a PhD in syntax). Yes, people sometimes use third person expressions to describe themselves. But that doesn't make them first person expressions. The whole point of that article is that machines shouldn't be programmed to use first person expressions (among other anthropomorphizing choices).

@pjakobs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro It’s gone now, but for a period of years, if you chose “Play Next” in the iOS Music app it would respond “We’ll play this next”. Dafuq? No you won’t. I will. Who is this we and how did you get in here?

@goodthinking @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro@mastodon.online the Apple hive mind

@pjakobs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro It caused me on several occasions to search my entire apartment to make sure Eddie Cue wasn’t hiding in a corner somewhere.

@mybarkingdogs @goodthinking @pjakobs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @kotaro This one I tend to read less as "we, your computer, are..." and more as "We, MS, are..." (not that I *like* it any better, mind you).

@aaribaud @mybarkingdogs @pjakobs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @kotaro Automated voice attendants are where this business started. The most cynical use of technology outside the atomic bomb, imo.

@goodthinking @aaribaud @mybarkingdogs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @kotaro@mastodon.online "I am looking for the next available agent..." that's so vile.
Btw, the other day, I pointed out in ChatGPT that the answer given was nonsense and plain wrong.
The response was "I did some more research and I have do agree that my answer was incomplete" - no you bloody box of wires, you did not do "more research"

@pjakobs @goodthinking @aaribaud @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @kotaro SERIOUSLY

@mybarkingdogs @pjakobs @jeffjarvis @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro There are ways that UI/UX can work in a friendly way without any of the creepery. Witness the calckey on-board design. Fun, but in a way that consistently points back at what YOU are doing, not what “they” are doing.

It's not about a ban. It's about an ethic.
@misc @pjakobs @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro

@jeffjarvis @pjakobs @emilymbender @aaribaud @kotaro agreed - I edited the post ;)