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Anyone have any ideas or advice for me? I'm looking to replace the US based #Webflow platform as my main web design tool. I still love it, it's incredible. But I'm concerned at the country's antics and how at their Dear Leader's whim service to Europe could be cut off in a single day.
I love #noCode when I can see what is going on begins the ui (ie the code changes). I can code, just a visual ui is faster to work with.
Thoughts on #Webstudio #Pinegrow other suggestions? #webDesign #design
@ronanmcd framer is from the Netherlands, only had a play about with it but I think I'd capable of a lot of the things you can do in webflow
@age i looked at that, but as I'll be managing a number of sites it works it very expensive. I think...
The pricing structure is confusing. €75 per month for 15000 pages. But it doesn't say if that all on a single url or multiple.
It looks superb though
@age just looked again. It could work, if each client signs up to a personal plan. But that might be awkward to get agreement for.
No easy solution!
@ronanmcd ah yeah I've only ever looked at it from the design side rather than managing things through it
@ronanmcd Cloudcannon and Carrd were on my list to investigate when I was looking at Webflow, but neither solves your US-based problem.
@reanguiano Webstudio (by an ex Webflow engineer) and Pinegrow are my current top two. They both need third party CMS options though. Framer a possibility if it requires its own CMS.
@ronanmcd
Hey! Webstudio is open source and will be always accessible whatever happens. Websites/webapps are completely decoupled by design and can be easily self hosted with our CLI
@trysound hey, yes, I've been taking it for a test run... Really impressed so far. Only a few qualms: I'd prefer something EU based, and I'll need to figure out Headless CMS. There's also some coding I'll need to learn (conditional visibility to show or hide items) but overall it's really impressive. I particularly love the tokens concept and how that works.
@ronanmcd We are EU based
@trysound ah, cool! I've signed up for a pro account. Thank you!
I just recently discovered Pinegrow and am very impressed by it. I will probably stick with that. .
@TomSeppert due to test it this week. I have used Modx as a CMS for years and I could use Pinegrow to develop the front end templates. That setup would be very light on hosting, so I could look at green hosting options
I found Pinegrow in search for a visual tool to help me build a front end with boortrap5 for a Pimcore project. Pimcore is based on Symfony and uses Twig as template engine.
For simple sites in the future I plan to use just Pinegrow (PG recognizes PHP for things like a form) and probably combine it with Grav (light flat-file cms that also uses Twig) for when a customer needs to edit content. I need to look into that last one tho.
I'm coming from Wordpress.
@TomSeppert great ideas, thanks. I'll check these out
