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@elementary tl;dr I support your objectives, and kudos on the goal, but I think you should monitor this new policy for unexpected negative outcomes. I take about 9k characters to explain why, but I’m not criticizing your intent.

While I am much more pragmatic about my stance on #aicoding this was previously a long-running issue of contention on the #StackExchange network that was never really effectively resolved outside of a few clearly egregious cases.

The triple-net is that when it comes to certain parts of software—think of the SCO copyright trials over header files from a few decades back—in many cases, obvious code will be, well…obvious. That “the simplest thing that could possibly work” was produced by an AI instead of a person is difficult to prove using existing tools, and false accusations of plagiarism have been a huge problem that has caused a number of people real #reputationalharm over the last couple of years.

That said, I don’t disagree with the stance that #vibecoding is not worth the pixels that it takes up on a screen. From a more pragmatic standpoint, though, it may be more useful to address the underlying principle that #plagiarism is unacceptable from a community standards or copyright perspective rather than making it a tool-specific policy issue.

I’m a firm believer that people have the right to run their community projects in whatever way best serves their community members. I’m only pointing out the pragmatic issues of setting forth a policy where the likelihood of false positives is quite high, and the level of pragmatic enforceability may be quite low. That is something that could lead to reputational harm to people and the project, or to community in-fighting down the road, when the real policy you’re promoting (as I understand it) is just a fundamental expectation of “original human contributions” to the project.

Because I work in #riskmanagement and #cybersecurity I see this a lot. This is an issue that comes up more often than you might think. Again, I fully support your objectives, but just wanted to offer an alternative viewpoint that your project might want to revisit down the road if the current policy doesn’t achieve the results that you’re hoping for.

In the meantime, I certainly wish you every possible success! You’re taking a #thoughtleadership stance on an important #AIgovernance policy issue that is important to society and to #FOSS right now. I think that’s terrific!

"“I’m pleased that there’s such interest in my doctoral thesis. It’s sort of languished on the shelf for over three decades,” said Carney in response to a question from the National Post during a campaign announcement in Winnipeg on Tuesday."

It took a few days, but #MarkCarney found a smart response.

Mark Carney responds to plagiarism allegations in his PhD thesis
nationalpost.com/news/politics

(The article concludes by assessing that it's a "minor case".)

#plagiarism
#CanPol #cdnpoli #elxn45

nationalpostCarney responds to plagiarism allegations: 'I'm pleased that there's such interest in my doctoral thesis'The Liberal leader said there's been a "very clear refutation" of the allegations by his doctoral supervisor.

This post by photographer Jingna Zhang resonates with me.

#AI art is devoid of humanity, intention, and backstory. It’s a shallow remix of human works, designed to be consumed and discarded, grinding human creation down into a sandy paste, to be re-extruded into grotesque displays. It’s the opposite of what makes art so valuable.

#aiArt #art #plagiarism #artist

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Anton LaVey plagiarized* "Might Is Right" for "The Satanic Bible" — here's the proof

queersatanic.com/anton-lavey-p

Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan, directly lifted passages from the 19th century proto-fascist book "Might Is Right" by “Ragnar Redbeard” (Arthur Desmond) and did so extensively and without credit to produce a substantial part of LaVey’s most famous and popular work "The Satanic Bible".

This has been known for a very long while, although most Satanists tend not to be aware of just how shamelessly and thoroughly this work was done.

This article demonstrates exactly that.

"A model trained on plagiarized data is useless."

Your ability to write (and read) this sentence is based on a model of English that is fundamentally not attributable to anyone in particular.

And so, for that matter, is your model of the world that tells you plagiarism is bad despite all the evidence to the contrary from your own daily life.

Have you published a book? Here's how to check if Meta stole it for their dumb AI. Literally every traditionally published author I could think of is here.

I guess there's one upside to me not publishing a book yet, but it's not super consoling.

#books #plagiarism #ai #LeaveMeta

theatlantic.com/technology/arc

The Atlantic · Search LibGen, the Pirated-Books Database That Meta Used to Train AIBy Alex Reisner

"More than 30 performing arts leaders in the UK, including the bosses of the National Theatre, Opera North and the Royal Albert Hall, have joined the chorus of creative industry concern about the government’s plans to let artificial intelligence companies use artists’ work without permission."

#AI #plagiarism

theguardian.com/culture/2025/m

The Guardian · Performing arts leaders issue copyright warning over UK government’s AI plansBy Dan Milmo

I'm giving a talk on Thursday, March 13, 2025 at the Háskóli Íslands (University of Iceland):

"Ritstuldur og gervigreind í háskólakennslu" (Plagiarism and AI in University Education)

I really like the Icelandic word for #Plagiarism: writing-stealing

I look forward to interesting discussions!

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@AlexanderKingsbury @pafurijaz

Yes, the general public is indeed very dumb and apathetic. Look at #America as a prime example.

Doesn’t mean we need to bend over for the #capitalist shitheads stealing from artists and maximizing their profits by replacing real people with slop regurgitating bots.

You are free to use ai and I am free to call it soulless slop pumped out by untalented hacks.