@aarhus @EvilCartyen maybe it *is* possible to post from Mastodon to Lemmi.
It seems like it is!
@EvilCartyen @dzm learn something new every day.
Well, maybe we can use this fact to liven up the community a bit.
Absolutely, we should get people like @CiaraNi@mastodon.green to maybe tag the community and not just hashtag it with the nice pictures from Aarhus harbour and all that.
@EvilCartyen yes, @CiaraNi's photos (and an accidental swan coming out from H.C.A's tale to check up on descendants) will definitely embellish the place.
Ciara, could you try tagging not just the #Aarhus hashtag, but also the feddit community by mentioning @aarhus?
@EvilCartyen @dzm @CiaraNi you are right. Mastodon clients hide the server name by default, so it looks a bit confusing in the beginning.
@dzm @EvilCartyen I hadn't discovered the @aarhus account. If I understand correctly, it's on Lemmy but we can post in both directions. thanks to the magic magiverse that is the Fediverse. Sounds like we can tag it, like using the (a)Bookstodon group tag here. As a chronic overposter of the posts involving #Aarhus, am happy to add the tag as suggested. WIll try it out soon.
As far as I know, mastodon can interact with Lemmy, but Lemmy can’t interact with Mastodon, due to the fact that it requires the content to be in a community. So I guess it is only when you tag one of our communities that we see it.
@President_Pyrus Thanks. I haven't figured it out yet. I tagged @aarhus in a toot but it seems to only have acted like a mention. It was tagged in the reply when people replied to my toot, but I don't see that it straddled fediverse spaces.
I think maybe it was because that post was already part of a chain of posts, maybe it needs to be the first post.
@EvilCartyen @aarhus @CiaraNi right, yes, i think that's it! It seems that replies are ignored in order not to spam Lemmy with posts.
@dzm @EvilCartyen Jeg har lige set, at Feddit har en Opstemme/Nedstemme-funktion. Det er en anden kultur end jeg er vant til her på Mastodon. Jeg kan se, at folk på Feddit-siden nedstemmer andre, der deler dagligdagsting som f.eks. gadekunst og et besøg på et torvemarked. Jeg er så vant til det inkluderende fællesskab her på Mastodon, at det er kommet bag på mig at se en indbygget 'negativitets-funktion'.
Det er ikke lige noget jeg lægger mærke til, nok mest fordi jeg er vandt til det, og jeg synes det sker meget sparsomt. Under alle omstændigheder er det mig der er mod på communitiet og jeg er glad for dit og andres indhold her.
Jeg tror det er fordi kulturen omkring hvad man deler de forskellige steder er lidt forskellig. Mastodon er meget mere personligt, også sådan jeg bruger det, hvor Lemmy er mere nyheder og sådan mere generelle spørgsmål.
Typisk altså, for communitiet er jo hvad vi gør det til og det indhold vi producerer
@EvilCartyen Enig. Jeg satte mig ikke ind i det, da I opfordrede til at cross-post'e via @aarhus. Det er først nu, hvor jeg har prøvet, at jeg har oplevet en 'fællesskabskulturforskel'. Klager over brug af engelsk; nedstemning af ukontroversielle indlæg; advarsler om at multiple toots kunne betragtes som spamming. Det fungerer fint indenfor en Walled Garden, hvor de er retningslinjerne for alle, der bor der. Det er tricky med cross-posting fra andre steder med andre retningslinjer og kultur.
Det er jo en af de udfordringer der er med activitypub, som indtil videre mest er noget vi har snakket om og ikke er noget vi har udforsket udenfor den enkelte software.
Som i - vi kan snakke med hinanden, men de enkelte slags softwares rammer danner naturligt en kultur for hvordan vi bruger dem, og de stemmer ikke nødvendigvis overens bare fordi vi KAN snakke sammen.
Jeg læste det ikke som en klage over engelsk, btw. Communitiets regler tillader dansk, engelsk, og alle de nordiske sprog samt rigsfællesskabets sprog.
@EvilCartyen Du har ret. Det var ikke en klage over brug af engelsk. Jeg fortolkede det bare som en 'pointed question'. Retningsslinjen er 'Indlæg skal primært være på dansk. Svensk, norsk, grønlandsk, færøsk og engelsk er tilladt i et begrænset omfang.' Det giver plads til tvivl og fortolkning. Hvor mange posts er for mange og derfor 'spamming'? Hvor mange posts på andre sprog end dansk er 'i et begrænset omfang'? Det understøtter din gode pointe om kultur-udfordringen på tværs af ActivityPub.
@CiaraNi @EvilCartyen English is allowed in the rules, as pointed out by Carsten. This would be kind of dealbreaker for me, as it's still difficult for me to read in Danish. Writing would be somewhere between embarrassing and illegible. Having a mix of languages helps me slowly increase my Danish intake. I think I'm not the only one in such situation ("there are literally dozens of us!")
I wouldn't want to flood with English posts, though.
Also, rules say that federation is enabled — so it's expected and accepted.
As to what and how to crosspost — probably we'll see some clarifications in community rules ans etiquette. Something like "I just ate a sandwich in # Aarhus" isn't worth a community post. A nice "postcard from Aarhus" is, i'd argue.
Thing like "please add first line as title, the rest will be body when tooting from Masto" are tiny details that can be figured out.
Sorry if my enthusiasm about crossposting caused you to get confused or upset.
@dzm @EvilCartyen All good points. They point to the challenges when separate digital spaces can talk to each other technically, but perhaps not culturally. It would feel like homework to me if I had to think about how headline/body would translate from Mastodon to Feddit, or my ratio of Danish:English toots. I also don't understand a culture where when someone says 'I visited a nice food market!', others feel the need to publicly boo them with an anonymous downvote. To me, that's an odd norm.
@dzm @EvilCartyen I'm just making these observations from my own point of view, I hasten to add! I understand it's a different space with a different culture, I'm not trying to complain or suggest changes as an outsider.
@CiaraNi @dzm @EvilCartyen it seems that you are comfortable with Mastodon approach :)
For me it's too ephemeral, as posts, replies, and boosts take pretty much same appearance and just wash away things that i might want to revisit later. The forum format really speaks to me.
Yet this niche that I've carved here on Masto feels very nice, letting me observe fun and nice people. Feddit (Aarhus community) is emptier for now.
Maybe all we need here is not to make people remember details of different software systems (software should be boring and easy), but a bot that would let us translate things like Ciara's nice postcards into suitable posts on feddit.