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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<a href="https://mastodon.social/@LillyHerself" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LillyHerself</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USpol</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Longtermism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TESCREAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TESCREAL</a>(2/2)Like I said, a lot in common with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialDarwinism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialDarwinism</a> in this respect.Giving little or no value to "unworthy lives" is very much in line with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fascism</a>, in particular of the type practiced by the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ThirdReich" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThirdReich</a>. Ad extremis, some important <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermists</a> would even go as far as annihilating 3 billion people to achieve the end of making humanity a "multi-planetary species:" 3)What we are seeing is just the beginning.3) <a href="https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/111080048646037206" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/111080048646037206</a>

HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<a href="https://mastodon.social/@LillyHerself" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LillyHerself</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Longtermist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermist</a> Mike <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ElonMusk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElonMusk</a> who thinks that even his own trans daughter has lost her value for humanity, as she cannit fulfill her biological destiny anymore, for instance?In earlier times, what you mention would've been very much in line with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialDarwinism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialDarwinism</a>, too.And if you think of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermists</a>' believe of making <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/humanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#humanity</a> a multi-planetary species, that is going to cost hundreds if billions. We cannot support "suckers."Said to say, but here we are.

HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<a href="https://dair-community.social/@timnitGebru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@timnitGebru</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Technofeudalists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Technofeudalists</a> and the perceived <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> threat incongruence(1/n) I'm surprised that you as an <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TESCREAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TESCREAL</a> expert See a discrepancy in this. For the morbid and haughty minds of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermists</a> line <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Elon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Elon</a>, there is no discrepancy, IMHO:1) At least since Goebbels, fascists offen acuse others of what they have done or are about to do themselves; or they deflect, flood the zone, etc. That on a tactical/communications strategy level.2) More...

Max Leibman has moved!People who aren’t actively working to sustain and renew the one planet we have do not get to lecture the rest of us on “what we owe the future.” <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/longtermism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#longtermism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#longtermists</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tescreal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tescreal</a>

fhekland<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@lproven" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lproven</a> what scares me is if this scenario is true and some people in power knows yet carries on as if everything is fine. That's pretty omnicidal. I don't know whether <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#longtermists</a> are just climate crisis deniers, or they know and this is all a diversion while they plan to live in caves underground. But with a sterile Earth in 1500yrs, talking about humanity in a million years is just bonkers.

Chuck DarwinFor <a href="https://c.im/tags/longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#longtermists</a>, there is nothing worse than succumbing to an <a href="https://c.im/tags/existential" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#existential</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/risk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#risk</a>: That would be the ultimate tragedy, since it would keep us from plundering our "<a href="https://c.im/tags/cosmic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cosmic</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/endowment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#endowment</a>" — resources like stars, planets, asteroids and energy — which many longtermists see as integral to fulfilling our "longterm potential" in the universe.What sorts of catastrophes would instantiate an existential risk? The obvious ones are nuclear <a href="https://c.im/tags/war" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#war</a>, global <a href="https://c.im/tags/pandemics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pandemics</a> and runaway <a href="https://c.im/tags/climate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#climate</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/change" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#change</a>. But Bostrom also takes seriously the idea that we already live in a giant computer <a href="https://c.im/tags/simulation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#simulation</a> that could get shut down at any moment (yet another idea that <a href="https://c.im/tags/Musk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musk</a> seems to have gotten from Bostrom). Bostrom further lists "<a href="https://c.im/tags/dysgenic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dysgenic</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/pressures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pressures</a>" as an existential risk, whereby less "intellectually talented" people (those with "<a href="https://c.im/tags/lower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lower</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/IQs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IQs</a>") outbreed people with <a href="https://c.im/tags/superior" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#superior</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/intellects" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#intellects</a>

Amaru Ca 💙 🐈‍⬛️ :autism: 🌙<a href="https://toot.wales/@fkamiah17" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fkamiah17</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@PJ_Evans" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@PJ_Evans</a> <a href="https://dice.camp/@jamesgraham" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jamesgraham</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@Greenseer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Greenseer</a> And then there's this. Worth the read. This bunch work very well with the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Longtermists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Longtermists</a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Posthumanists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Posthumanists</a> etc, having common cause, tho from different perceptions & angles."Even if billions..perish in the coming climate catastrophe... we shouldn’t be too concerned" <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo</a>  As for us? They're happy to "let nature take its course" for us via plagues, poverty, climate disasters & pre-emptive wars.

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