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Some points, and a question for uk politicians;
- There are around half a million trans people in the uk, including eggs.
- There are a few thousand TERFs.
- Trans people will vote for you if you treat us like human beings.
- Nothing you do will ever satisfy TERFs.
And so to the question: why are you so bad at basic arithmetic?
⧖ @christineburns@mastodon.green@goatsarah Well, they’re not very good political debaters. It’s a source of constant amazement that most pols haven’t yet formulated the way to deal with the infantile gotchas of the GC-Press-ERG nexus in the way I’m sure the last generation of actual statesmen could. It doesn’t help that they’re so afraid of the mere idea of trans that they have never done the basic homework to blow off the nonsense lies. Instead they look like they’re caught in the headlights.
@christineburns @goatsarah Honestly in terms of the general electorate, there’s no votes in anti-trans policies.
If there is political maths being done, it’s all about the influence to be gained among people who are active politically, both within parties and without.
Terfs are over-represented in political parties.
@katiefenn @goatsarah Judged by how it has spread within the chattering classes of North London (which explains the press/SPADs/ middle class bubble concentration) I think it is spread through inadequately sanitised private dinner parties. It’s something you have to affect belief in to be assured of continued invites. It’s a classic example of a groupthink contagion and the danger lies in the power of the people who get the mind virus.
@ajlanes @christineburns @goatsarah Make it embarrassing to be there again
@katiefenn @ajlanes @goatsarah Well that sounds like the humane option.
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∫ Debate is useless. Worse than useless. Debate is a losing game for human rights, because as soon as you concede that human rights have to be successfully debated to achieve progress, you've conceded that they are negotiable and therefore not rights.
@petealexharris @goatsarah I’m not a fan of debate so I agree with you. But if someone is coming at you with rhetoric built on falsehood and the trickery of political debate then an effective response is needed, not caving and running away
@christineburns @goatsarah
Yes. You stick to a clear statement of your position and don't allow yourself to get derailed.
If your position was highly dubious this wouldn't fly of course. But for example "people have the right to live as their true selves and it isn't within the legitimate authority of the state to say whether they are allowed to" is a good starting point.